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Delete ref 32, vindicating Ganoji Shirke & family

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Dear sir or madam, Chatrapati Sambajaji was captured due to his close Brahmins. As the solid proof from Martin's diary is sufficient along with rest of the available proofs at the government of Maharashtra, currebtly with the Pooratatva Vibhag. According to the current historical documents, the close Brahmins of Sambahji Maharaj not only assisted to capture Smabhaji Raje multiple times but also vindicated the closest relatives of Sambahji Maharaj that is his wife Maharajni Yesubai & her brother & family Shirke. So much so that all power control was shifted to Bramhins & maratha was mis used & saturated in Pune in the hands of Peshwa. Until Maratha empire lost its armed navy & shortly everything at the feet of British empire. The reference number 32 ignore all these facts, also the letter from Government of Maharashtra that "the historical department has no proof against Ganoji Shirke for helping Mughal army. not to mention that Ganimi Kawa was very important to Shirke & Bhosale family. There many Shirke family member spies had changed their names & lived near the toorps of the Mughal army. However history was written by upper cast Bramhins therefore had been unkind to Ganoji Shirke, blamed Yesubai's brother; in fact the close Brahmins of Sambahji Maharaj betrayed the Chatrapati on many occasions, where Anna hi Datto & his close associates were found guilty more than once; hence beheaded by Sambahji Maharaj. Killing a bramhin had been considered the greatest sin the ancient India, therefore all the close relatives of Anna ji Datto & supports planned to take revenge of Chatrapati Sambhaji. Neither the Bramhins at the time supported Shivaji Maharaj during his coronation nor support his elder son Sambahji. In the end these bramhin families were able to behead Chatrapati with the help of Mukkabar Khan, the Mughal army general appointmented by Emporer Aurangzeb. Anvesh.rajeshirke (talk) 02:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Avnesh.rajeshirke, only martin's diary cannot be considered as a reliable proof. There should be a secondary supporting reference for it. Therefore I have removed the information regarding Martin's diary in capture and execution section. Mahusha (talk) 14:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect... This needs to be amended... And the title should be Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj.... Not Sambhaji... 38.41.89.166 (talk) 02:05, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct, the title should be Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj 174.165.71.29 (talk) 05:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About Adding some paintings

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Hello Sir, I am an artist, is it possible to add my personal paintings which are related to the history. I have keen interest to show the history through my oil paintings.

Thanks Parag123345 (talk) 15:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2025

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192.140.152.1 (talk) 20:13, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marathi Empire

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 20:53, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sambhaji Maharaj served Maratha empire not Mughal empire

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"Sambhaji briefly served the Mughal empire when Shivaji was involved in the campaign against the sultanate of Golconda".

I think Sambhaji serverd Maratha empire not Mughal empire as he was successor of first Maratha Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. Can we correct it. Abhaypatidar20 (talk) 16:58, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Check the source. There is nothing to correct. Dympies (talk) 17:38, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please share the source to check. 103.86.137.14 (talk) 19:02, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can find some of them at Sambhaji#Arrest and defection to the Mughals. Dympies (talk) 12:11, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2025

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The entire history of Shambhaji has been changed to portray him as a traitor of the maeatha empire. Addy1710 (talk) 19:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LizardJr8 (talk) 23:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

addiction to sensual pleasures

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I want to tell every user, This is a sentence that defames a great king. This is not mentioned in any source. This has been proven that Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj knew many languages, he was a poet, he wrote the Budhbhushan Granth (treatise). Of course, it is found in many references that his nature was irritable, but it is not mentioned anywhere that he was 'addicted to sensual pleasures'. Kiranpawar3210 (talk) 17:08, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Read the notice at the top of this talkpage which clearly states "Q: Why does it say "addiction to sensual pleasures"? I do not like that!
A: That is exactly what the cited source says, and other sources note allegations that he behaved inappropriately with a Brahmin woman, or may have committed some other offense. Suffice to say, for whatever reason, Shivaji confined him to Panhala. If you know of an alternate theory for that confinement, and have a reliable source, you can add that as an alternative theory, but you cannot simply remove that explanation unless you have very strong evidence that such story is obsolete according to modern scholars.". You are only bringing up that old chestnut with the same WP:IDONTLIKEIT argument. - Ratnahastin (talk) 17:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no STRONG evidence/source/reference anywhere to support this statement, so nobody can't state it clearly. Source that only the exact words contain should be published here as it is, or the statement making this allegation is completely false.
There is no source has been written word to word as 'addiction to sensual pleasures'.
That sentence seems based on guesswork.
The sentence needs to be changed. Kiranpawar3210 (talk) 18:25, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article:
"Sambhaji's behaviour, including alleged irresponsibility and addiction to sensual pleasures,...."
The sources:
"Though a fine soldier, he became addicted to sensuous pleasures and easy life on attaining maturity and displayed irresponsible conduct unbecoming of a crown prince "
  • Mehta, Jaswant Lal (2005-01-01). Advanced Study in the History of Modern India 1707-1813. New Delhi, India: Sterling Publishers Pvt. Ltd. p. 47. ISBN 978-1-932705-54-6.
"when he came in direct contact with the loose life led by the Mughal grandees. It was at this time that he must have contracted the evil habits of addiction to sensual pleasures in severe contrast to the austere life of his father’s surroundings.... Soon after coronation ceremony of 1674, complaints reached Shivaji's ears of his son's evil habits. Shivaji kept him under surveillance at Shringāpore during 1676. "
- Ratnahastin (talk) 02:03, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sambhaji Maharaj was not addicted to anything nor they were expelled from Raigad because of sensual pleasures

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Sambhaji raje were never addicted to anything nor they were expelled from Raigad because of sensual pleasures 123.108.228.80 (talk) 18:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes some people are making changes in the article after release of chaava tralier so that the people who dont know about him get deluded..if you have good sources please edit the article Om Mojar (talk) 18:09, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article is been continuously edited by showing false history to defame Chattrapati Sambhaji Maharaj

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articlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sambhaji#c-123.108.228.80-20250201180400-Sambhaji_Maharaj_was_not_addicted_to_anything_nor_they_were_expelled_from_Raigad Om Mojar (talk) 18:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Theories for his confinement at Panhala

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There appears to be a general agreement among authors writing about Sambhaji that he was confined to Panhala because of his "misconduct", some say that he was addicted to sensual pleasures, while others say that he attempted to "violate" a Brahmin woman. - Ratnahastin (talk) 04:16, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Misbehavior with a Brahmin woman

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He further adds that Sabhasad, the chronicler of Shivaji, may not be correct literally in this respect, but the implication therein appears to be probable.24 Jadunath Sarkar comments on this point: "Shambuji (was) a grownup youth notorious for his violent temper and self-indulgent character. . .Shambuji's own conduct brought matters to a crisis. For having violated a beautiful Brahmin woman who was visiting the palace on a religious festival, the prince was removed to Parli

During his life-time his son Sambhaji's conduct was a source of grief and vexation to him. When Sambhaji attempted to violate a Brahman's wife, Shivaji confined his son for a time in Panhala fort and, after his release, placed a strict watch over him.

  • Saletore, Rajaram Narayan (1978). Sex in Indian harem life. New Delhi: Orient Paperbacks. p. 143. OCLC 565662028.

Sambhaji had been confined at Panhala as a punishment for attempting " to violate the person of the wife of a Brahmin. ( Duff ). This is also referred to in a Bombay letter already noted. Shivaji was so strict and strong in his respect for women that, like Mahmud of Ghazni, he would not spare even his son if he offended in this respect. Sambhaji was put in confinement at Panhala and though subsequently released from Panhala he was kept under strict surveillance at Parali.

"Sensual pleasures"

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when he came in direct contact with the loose life led by the Mughal grandees. It was at this time that he must have contracted the evil habits of addiction to sensual pleasures in severe contrast to the austere life of his father’s surroundings.... Soon after coronation ceremony of 1674, complaints reached Shivaji's ears of his son's evil habits. Shivaji kept him under surveillance at Shringāpore during 1676

Above all, he was incredibly, almost insanely brave. Unfortunately, all these stilling qualities were obscured if not altogether obliterated by an addiction to drugs, an excessive fondness for women, a streak of cruelty and, even more than all these, a consuming distrust towards his father's advisers and associates.

His eldest son Sambhaji became addicted to sensual pleasures and Shivaji had to take severe measures to wean him away from his habits. The prince was kept under surveillance at Sringarpur and was later transferred to the Fort of Panhala from which he escaped and joined the Mughal general Diler Khan.

"Unlike his father," observes Khafi Khan, "Sambhaji was addicted to wine, and fond of the society of handsome women, and gave himself up to pleasure. He was not merely dissolute; in 1678 he had actually deserted to the Mughal camp and had attacked the Maratha fort of Bhupalgad, and Shivaji had been forced to keep him in confinement at Panhala."

Though an excellent warrior, he became addicted to sensual pleasures on attaining maturity and displayed irresponsible conduct, unbecoming of a crown prince. What Salim had been to Akbar, Sambhaji was to his father Shivaji.

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